tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post111128519253101258..comments2008-07-08T02:18:09.746-04:00Comments on Popular Technology.net: Why Adblock is bad for the "free" InternetAndrewnoreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-91447231295110052282008-07-07T23:30:00.000-04:002008-07-07T23:30:00.000-04:00None of you ad blockers own a website, do you?Free...None of you ad blockers own a website, do you?Free content for user, but someone has to host it.Ads aren't for profit, ads are for counter-expenses. I run a free game, but it's only free to the players.. it costs me over $200 a month to run it. And believe me... I don't get $200 in donations every month.I dont even ask anyone to click on ads. The rare person that finds an ad honeslty interesting Mikhailhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18291720907273931819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-33637263057619918142007-10-16T13:45:00.000-04:002007-10-16T13:45:00.000-04:00I have some ideas on how to prevent adblocking. Th...I have some ideas on how to prevent adblocking. The basic idea is to selectively encrypt a webpage. Please see:http://www.killadblock.frihost.net/kab/There is a live demo that encrypts your HTML!Ashwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02443708986645598889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-65838259550268013982007-08-29T03:56:00.000-04:002007-08-29T03:56:00.000-04:00The main problem with adblock plus is that it's to...The main problem with adblock plus is that it's too effective and it's free.I run a small site at retrovision.tv. It gets a small profit and pays it's massive bandwidth bill for serving TV.I just use plain old google ads. Not only does adblock plus kill simple Google ads, it especially kills Google ads.If these blockers are adopted widely, the first casualties will be small sites like mine. Crackpot Conspiracy Theoristhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148200360821701350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-89442331188191641422007-08-20T21:22:00.000-04:002007-08-20T21:22:00.000-04:00To me this raises the question of what level of ad...To me this raises the question of what level of ads are good for the internet?None or free for all! Neither policy will work. It has to be somewhere in the middle. The net is not entirely run by advertising and it doesn't have to be, but clearly advertising supports a lot of sites.TimTim Yenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03910041717054478120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-15558180503585996952007-08-17T20:56:00.000-04:002007-08-17T20:56:00.000-04:00If you chose to make your living through a website...If you chose to make your living through a website, I surely hope you didn't plan on your revenue coming from ads. If that's the case, I'll be glad to see your website disappear.Justinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14225355351017564067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-70831138366815380992007-08-17T15:11:00.000-04:002007-08-17T15:11:00.000-04:00Just to point out to all the Firefox users out the...Just to point out to all the Firefox users out there, Opera is more secure and more standards compliant, and is a faster browser by far. So unless you are using Opera, you really can't say these are the reasons you use Firefox, especially since IE7 is about as equally compliant as Firefox.Jasonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07422374902421619115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-21478034374137500412007-08-17T14:31:00.000-04:002007-08-17T14:31:00.000-04:00*shrug* How a website owner pays his bandwidth bil...*shrug* How a website owner pays his bandwidth bills is not my problem, and I will not allow third parties to send unsolicited content to my computer. If I send my browser to www.foo.com, I do not want content from ad.doubleclick.net. If I wanted to view doubleclick.net's content, I would have directed my browser to that URL.If you can't pay your hosting bill without advertising, then to the voidGo Go Chinchilla!http://www.blogger.com/profile/01698471530584699839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1125529056186298362005-08-31T18:57:00.000-04:002005-08-31T18:57:00.000-04:00Personal attacks will be removed. As for IE, it is...Personal attacks will be removed. As for IE, it is elementary to not get infected with Spyware and Viruses. Look into it.Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1118082408420445902005-06-06T14:26:00.000-04:002005-06-06T14:26:00.000-04:00Instead your just a nobody posting, sad.Instead your just a nobody posting, sad.Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1118027455842887542005-06-05T23:10:00.000-04:002005-06-05T23:10:00.000-04:00As far as im concerned, smart people will not see ...As far as im concerned, smart people will not see a flashing ad on a page and think "oooh i should buy that without thinking about whether i want or need it". this is the domain of the common idiot. they're out ther right now, on their AOL accounts with a spyware-ridden copy of IE and an inbox full of penis enlargement ads (half of them will probably buy it). these people have no knowledge of Thurstonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12851964395078023954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1117167431207617172005-05-27T00:17:00.000-04:002005-05-27T00:17:00.000-04:00What is written goes under the assumption that the...What is written goes under the assumption that the current "free internet" in the right internet. (I'm not particularily disputing this.. I'll return to it later).Generally, the internet has been following the American business model. If you look at other mediums, such as radio and television, we have seen models that require fees or(as with the phenomenal BBC) taxes. In North America, we see peter.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02805551937051901415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1114394158785547832005-04-24T21:55:00.000-04:002005-04-24T21:55:00.000-04:00I hate blinkies.This social contract between adver...I hate blinkies.This social contract between advertiser and viewer has always been an asymmetrical relationship with advertisers pushing things as much as they can. I recall hating commercials on television. In high school I learned that the more annoying the commercial, the more memorable it was and thus they designed ads to be annoying.That was before television remote controls. After TVs got steve polinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06095291939072131815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1113228361415063612005-04-11T10:06:00.000-04:002005-04-11T10:06:00.000-04:00I think Lachek's position would be humourous if it...I think Lachek's position would be humourous if it weren't so serious. I like to call the argument the "self-centered" argument. I'm not trying to offend or make a personal atttack, I'll explain my rationale.He's arguing that since he doesn't care about the content on the other sites, they are irrelevant. "I must say that personally I could live without them". Yes, so obviously everyone else Glorioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09040226161956898539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111879033705759342005-03-26T18:17:00.000-05:002005-03-26T18:17:00.000-05:00If you don't like the rules don't reply. Any perso...If you don't like the rules don't reply. Any personal attacks on myself will be removed, any arguments about them will be removed.Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111861114846270502005-03-26T13:18:00.000-05:002005-03-26T13:18:00.000-05:00I'd say it's analgous to the TV situationI'd say it's analgous to the TV situationJoseph Huanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09425685834578811684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111803231156873842005-03-25T21:13:00.000-05:002005-03-25T21:13:00.000-05:00"Andrew, you continously say "Adblock" removes adv..."Andrew, you continously say "Adblock" removes adverts. It is originally configured to Hide adverts, and only those going to extreme lengths will set it to Remove them."It doesn't matter, if you are unable to click on them then the website does not get paid for them. The majority of payments are done with Click-through advertising.For the last time I am not talking about sites that barrage you Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111729661941494552005-03-25T00:47:00.000-05:002005-03-25T00:47:00.000-05:00#1 I'm not going to continue tolerating long drawn...#1 I'm not going to continue tolerating long drawn out offtopic rambling responses.You can play symantics games all you want. Lokitorrent was targeted and shut down for illegal activity. I'm not arguing technicalities. You don't like my response too bad. This argument is closed."Regardless, I don't see how their current non-existence, so-called criminal behaviour, etc in any way relates to their Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111723810060159322005-03-24T23:10:00.000-05:002005-03-24T23:10:00.000-05:00Yes, of course Lokitorrent knew what they were doi...Yes, of course Lokitorrent knew what they were doing as far as facilitating the downloading of copyrighted material, but your description of their activities is still incorrect. If you knew anything about BitTorrent, or about IP law as it relates to these cases, you would know that a BitTorrent tracker is as guilty of copyright crimes as a website that provides a link to someone else's external Lachekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14049150670033934463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111704663656744062005-03-24T17:51:00.000-05:002005-03-24T17:51:00.000-05:00"Lokitorrent did not get shut down by the MPAA for..."Lokitorrent did not get shut down by the MPAA for pirating movies. Lokitorrent chose to shut down their torrent site and replace it with the MPAA notice as part of a settlement with the MPAA to prevent them from being dragged to court for failing to moderate away copyrighted material from their torrent tracker."-> AHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!! How naive are you? These sites are used to pirate copywritten Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111700267395967532005-03-24T16:37:00.000-05:002005-03-24T16:37:00.000-05:00Lokitorrent did not get shut down by the MPAA for ...Lokitorrent did not get shut down by the MPAA for pirating movies. Lokitorrent chose to shut down their torrent site and replace it with the MPAA notice as part of a settlement with the MPAA to prevent them from being dragged to court for failing to moderate away copyrighted material from their torrent tracker. The same settlement also involved paying the MPAA the money Lokitorrent had collected Lachekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14049150670033934463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111632322962471262005-03-23T21:45:00.000-05:002005-03-23T21:45:00.000-05:00Lokitorrent.com?LMAO! http://news.netcraft.com/arc...Lokitorrent.com?LMAO! http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/02/11/lokitorrent_shuttered_by_mpaa_lawsuit.htmlThey were shut down by the MPAA for what else? Pirating Movies. Good example there!Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111631911632068042005-03-23T21:38:00.000-05:002005-03-23T21:38:00.000-05:00"You're continually validating your points by refe..."You're continually validating your points by referring to large, free "portal" style web sites operated for financial gain by large corporations - see MSN, Yahoo!, Netscape, Google, About.com etc"-> Um no I'm not, do you read what I type? Large Audience can mean any site with a "large" audience. Numerous sites that are not corporate run fit this model. Examples: Anandtech, Toms Hardware Guide, Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111628526322292522005-03-23T20:42:00.000-05:002005-03-23T20:42:00.000-05:00You're continually validating your points by refer...You're continually validating your points by referring to large, free "portal" style web sites operated for financial gain by large corporations - see MSN, Yahoo!, Netscape, Google, About.com etc, and also online magazines and the likes such as Salon, Wired, Slashdot and so on. Yes, there are examples of smaller or more focused sites as well.While I do recognize the services these sites provide, Lachekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14049150670033934463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111572906081817382005-03-23T05:15:00.000-05:002005-03-23T05:15:00.000-05:00Which is why I completely agree with blocking pop-...Which is why I completely agree with blocking pop-ups. While they may find ways to overcome them, the pop-up stopping software has managed to keep up.Andrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111562136582284662005-03-23T02:15:00.000-05:002005-03-23T02:15:00.000-05:00Pop ups intrude into your privacy. They are a nuis...Pop ups intrude into your privacy. They are a nuisance everywhere. Some pop ups like selling banned drugs, viagra, drugs for penis enlargement etc. are annoying. But they find out some means to overcome technological methods of blocking up pop ups.Plainsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05632204689214242289noreply@blogger.com