tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post111110984635195589..comments2024-02-12T03:38:12.487-05:00Comments on Popular Technology.net: Firefox Unleashes SpywareUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1145901447493398652006-04-24T13:57:00.000-04:002006-04-24T13:57:00.000-04:00I've used Firefox for a while now and can say I on...I've used Firefox for a while now and can say I only used it for tabbed browsing . Opera is working quite well for me now, Firefox is a piece of crap that makes all of my bookmarks disappear and slows down my computer using an insane amount of memory. I'm not some loser that holds on to a brand when it quits working.Mr.Yoshimotohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874770955312835160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1125798776999493482005-09-03T21:52:00.000-04:002005-09-03T21:52:00.000-04:00"One more thing. Type in "drive by downloads" into..."One more thing. Type in "drive by downloads" into google and see what you come up with. (Note, this is for IE users only). Interesting stuff, for sure. The rundown is spyware installing automatically, no EULAs or "Ok" buttons or anything. Just bam, it's there. With IE."<BR/><BR/>SP2 eliminates this problem. Spyware CANNOT automatically install on IE with SP2. If you don't have SP2 simply Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111716559165164442005-03-24T21:09:00.000-05:002005-03-24T21:09:00.000-05:00"Where? I don't get a pop-up when I go there, and ..."Where? I don't get a pop-up when I go there, and neither does the pop-up blocker show itself. Nor do I get a pop-under. I'm using Firefox 1.0.2."<BR/>-> Compare dates.<BR/><BR/>"I very slightly agree with you there. I think though, there's a lot more serious issues with IE that many Firefox users (myself included) will use as reasons to switch away from IE."<BR/>-> Name one.<BR/><BR/>"The Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111619900140437222005-03-23T18:18:00.000-05:002005-03-23T18:18:00.000-05:00"I did not read the comments, but did you even rea..."I did not read the comments, but did you even read my comment?"<BR/>-> Yes and it reads as someone who skimmed the article and did not read any of the replies.<BR/><BR/>"The Firefox community will quickly dismiss this sort of exploit. It will be considered not important because it requires user interaction. Yet these same exploits found in Internet Explorer have been fiercely criticized by the Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111561717277301652005-03-23T02:08:00.000-05:002005-03-23T02:08:00.000-05:00Ut oh http://phpnuke.org/ Pop-up! Stopped cold by ...Ut oh http://phpnuke.org/ Pop-up! Stopped cold by IE SP2's popup blocker! Not Firefox though.<br /><br />You apparently missed tha article and did not read it nor the comments.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111303134182309092005-03-20T02:18:00.000-05:002005-03-20T02:18:00.000-05:00My comment in regards to extensions was for the Po...My comment in regards to extensions was for the Pop-up blocking problem. It was a default IE6+SP2 vs. Firefox 1.0.1. Which I proved IE6+SP2 does a better job.<BR/><BR/>IE6's basic interface is getting dated but this was never the discussion here and like Firefox extensions there are things you can add to improve on it. The simplest being AvantBrowser. I wish people would get off the Firefox Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111301609425456892005-03-20T01:53:00.000-05:002005-03-20T01:53:00.000-05:00but...can you surf with style? (tabbed browsing, f...but...can you surf with style? (tabbed browsing, find as you type, ad-blocking, session-saver, greasemonkey...etc)<BR/><BR/>I got flamed for my post about ad-block and firefox extensions.<BR/><BR/>are you telling me you don't have google bar installed? and you do not even have ONE add-on (as defined by MS, under tools->internet options->programs->manage add-ons) installed?<BR/><BR/>If you do, Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16891507868265261084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111299211200351252005-03-20T01:13:00.000-05:002005-03-20T01:13:00.000-05:00I work for a Computer OEM and the only Spyware you...I work for a Computer OEM and the only Spyware you get with IE+SP2 are user induced. Proper system management can even eliminate next to all of these user induced problems. Installing SP2 does not remove Spyware so you will find alot more SP2 machines with Spyware on them after April (SP2 mandatory rollout) initially but you will also find a lot less from that point on once they are cleaned. Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111283031619233022005-03-19T20:43:00.000-05:002005-03-19T20:43:00.000-05:00Post a link that auto-installs Spyware with SP2. I...Post a link that auto-installs Spyware with SP2. I believe what I see. None of my clients or myself have been infected with auto-installing Spyware with SP2. I know people would rather believe Myths and continue making things. If you don't have a link you have no proof.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111279228676790812005-03-19T19:40:00.000-05:002005-03-19T19:40:00.000-05:00"Whereas, with IE, even under SP2... they don't ha..."Whereas, with IE, even under SP2... they don't have to do anything except go to infested websites. No need to click on anything or accept any java/flash/etc. dialogs."<BR/>-> Nope, Wrong! Post One Link to a site that autoinstalls Spyware with SP2. None exist because it can't happen.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111277252039076132005-03-19T19:07:00.000-05:002005-03-19T19:07:00.000-05:00This exploit proves that Firefox is no more secure...This exploit proves that Firefox is no more secure then IE+SP2 in regards to clueless users. Your point is mute.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111274627673708752005-03-19T18:23:00.000-05:002005-03-19T18:23:00.000-05:00"there is now an IE exploit that installs malware ..."there is now an IE exploit that installs malware even when the user selects "no" in the dialog box."<BR/>-> Not with SP2 or a properly configured Internet Explorer setup.<BR/><BR/>"I don't have to install Java and Flash in Firefox if I don't want to. With IE, I have no choice."<BR/>- > If you were knowledgeable you would know this is not true. You do not have to install either with IE.<BR/><BR/>Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111234103313161732005-03-19T07:08:00.000-05:002005-03-19T07:08:00.000-05:00Ut oh http://phpnuke.org/]Pop-up! Stopped cold by ...Ut oh http://phpnuke.org/]Pop-up! Stopped cold by IE SP2's popup blocker! Not Firefox though.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111223966375431502005-03-19T04:19:00.000-05:002005-03-19T04:19:00.000-05:00None of my clients come back with the same problem...None of my clients come back with the same problem either and they are still using IE.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111220464706522112005-03-19T03:21:00.000-05:002005-03-19T03:21:00.000-05:00After I helped install Firefox on my friends' comp...After I helped install Firefox on my friends' computers, NONE of them came back to me for "weird problems" (search hijacked, images not working, computer slow...etc)anymore.<BR/><BR/>I am sure many others have experienced the same.<BR/><BR/>I tried using IE since version 2 (I gave them a chance when everybody else used Netscape, IE2 did suck.) When IE4 came out, it blew NS away, I told all my Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16891507868265261084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111205862329091602005-03-18T23:17:00.000-05:002005-03-18T23:17:00.000-05:00"So why clicking "no" in IE is more valid than cli..."So why clicking "no" in IE is more valid than clicking "no" in Firefox?"<BR/>->Ah, did you read the article? No one said it was.<BR/><BR/>"Clearly you have no point."<BR/>->The point is simple Firefox is vulnerable to Spyware. When you compare SP2 IE vs Firefox, the spyware argument is mute. What is even better is IE does not need any Extensions.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111185627365357392005-03-18T17:40:00.000-05:002005-03-18T17:40:00.000-05:00"Can this be accomplished with a system that uses ..."Can this be accomplished with a system that uses IE as it's default browser? I think not."<BR/><BR/>Easily. Install SP2. So long as you click on "no" at security warnings you will get no more spyware.<BR/><BR/>For those not in XP or have SP2 installed they can uninstall MSJVM, install and update SpywareBlaster and use a popup blocker like the Google Toolbar and be Spyware Free too.<BR/><BR/>If Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111171323502570052005-03-18T13:42:00.000-05:002005-03-18T13:42:00.000-05:00I had a good laugh reading this. I thought this a...I had a good laugh reading this. I thought this article was a joke at first, but I guess I am wrong. What especially amuses me is this "More reliable? Then how come 15% of web pages do not render correctly in it?" This is because those 15% of web pages are coded sloppily and Firefox follows stricter W3C standards than IE does. I shouldn't even say "stricter", what I mean is that Firefox Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15373842915006523253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111163205869517742005-03-18T11:26:00.000-05:002005-03-18T11:26:00.000-05:00"Firefox having only been out less then a year is ..."Firefox having only been out less then a year is already being plagued with elementary style Spyware exploits and Pop-ups."<BR/><BR/>Two thing about this line.<BR/>1. This wasn't the case when 1.0 first came out.<BR/>2. This has always been the case for IE.<BR/>With that said, this isn't a plague and it isn't elementary.<BR/><BR/>I can also sum it up this way.<BR/><BR/>Firefox vs. IE is like theBadgerDiggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222985855435220970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111158579109391062005-03-18T10:09:00.000-05:002005-03-18T10:09:00.000-05:00More reliable? Then how come 15% of web pages do n...More reliable? Then how come 15% of web pages do not render correctly in it?Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05170143101028077396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9481975.post-1111145151155670332005-03-18T06:25:00.000-05:002005-03-18T06:25:00.000-05:00Nobody said Firefox is perfect. It is just a lot ...Nobody said Firefox is perfect. It is just a lot better than IE, that's all.<BR/><BR/>Besides, with extensions like <A HREF="http://adblock.mozdev.org/" REL="nofollow">AdBlock</A>, not only are the pop-up/unders gone, I never even see graphic ads anymore.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16891507868265261084noreply@blogger.com